Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:33 pm
And note: I could give two shits if you release the code or not, I'm just asking for the sake of conversationsole wrote:Just wondering why you won't release the source, ignoring the fact that this guy threatened you. If I came here and asked for the source would you not release it, and why?
He was doing more than just that.... He was also threatening to report some unrelated "infringements" (the song samples in the dance loops) if he didn't get his way:Baker wrote: In this case, the one individual sought to assert a right he happened to not have, but didn't know it. It's a mistake, not someone being "bad" intentionally.
He wasn't asking nicely; he was threatening. Basically, "If I don't get what I want, I'll not only report to the gnu," (which could have been an honest mistake, I'll grant you) "but I'll also report that you are offering these song loops for download," (that's just bullying, even though it holds no water, because the short, low-quality song samples aren't infringing on anyone).Juggernaut wrote: ...This also isn't even to mention how many copyright infringements are occuring within the dance loops alone.
The choice is simple: offer up the sources. If this does not happen within a reasonable amount of time, these various infringements will be made public, leading to a whole mess of potential problems.
Heh, it was more than this as well... I pointed out a quote to him from Wikipedia that should have cleared things up to him. It said, clearly:Baker wrote: The one who started that thread didn't really understand what he read on Wikipedia. It sucks when that happens.
We all know what Wikipedia is; it's a good starting place to find information about things you want to know.... The information there about QuakeC was quite correct too, but that wasn't good enough for Juggernaut... He went in and EDITED the entry and added incorrect information to say what he wanted to believe.... He added to wikipedia:The programmers of Quake modifications could then publish their progs.dat bytecode without revealing their source code. Most Quake mods were published this way.
However, since Quake has been released under the GPL license, publishers of Quake modifications that contain a binary compiled progs.dat are required under the terms and conditions of the GPL to release the sources of their QuakeC modifications as well as provide the relevant GPL license text under penalty of law.
Is this correct? None of the files I downloaded with MauveBib or FrikaC's mini mods claim they are GPL (and obviously the GPL text isn't included either).Baker wrote: ... is GPL because it incorporates GPL code that FrikaC and MauveBib made (Tetris and Paqman).
Don't know him, heh. I don't know the history. I guess I sort of take the laid back approach to things.You really can't just excuse his actions as being an honest mistake... He wasn't interested in the truth of the matter. He just wanted what he wanted, and wouldn't listen to anyone else or take 'no' for an answer, and was threatening to report unrelated things in order to get what he wanted.
Although Joao goes a bit too far, heh....
Someone said something at some time, probably at Inside3D forums (which happen to be down). I could have remembered wrong and had never looked in the zips myself.Is this correct? None of the files I downloaded with MauveBib or FrikaC's mini mods claim they are GPL (and obviously the GPL text isn't included either).Baker wrote: ... is GPL because it incorporates GPL code that FrikaC and MauveBib made (Tetris and Paqman).
MauveBib's stuff just says they can be placed into any other mod....